burntcopper: (arthur-uther-brain)
burntcopper ([personal profile] burntcopper) wrote2009-02-04 05:32 pm
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The 'get out of my fandom' syndrome

...Yeah, it's the whole thing of 'fandom becomes big and popular, it's going to attract the people that annoyed you elsewhere'. inevitable, I suppose.

[livejournal.com profile] crabby_lioness has hit merlin fandom, watching all the eps in a rush - and cross-posting her gigantic fucking episode analyses to all 3 discussion comms. Which pontificate on the legend as she sees it, are as pretentious as fuck, motivations, with a wonderfully patronising air. (do not get me started on when she starts talking about applying tarot)

her stuff tends to invoke kneejerk responses in me. Especially when she starts talking as though there's only one version or view on certain characters, and it's always the high romantic version. You really, really, don't do that on a legend which is *another country's*. Seriously. (yes, the brits do get a bit possessive about Arthur and Robin Hood. You may be descended from the British, but those who live and got brought up here get first say.) I got into a... slightly 'Excuse me, WTF? Not in England these days.' exchange with her about the point of the Arthurian legend - she seems to think it's the 'when knights would fight for anyone ideal'. Er, no, it's about a land being united for the first time. Which didn't happen again until the late saxon period. The romantic stuff was *bolted on*. and when i said 'not in England these days', she cited it being an inspiration to William Morris and the British Socialist movement... :headdesk: please note, 'These days.'

Academia is very nice, dear, but you're applying it to a Saturday evening show where they threw everything in the pot and picked out what looked *shiny*, and then wrote it from the perspective it's currently viewed in - the trend in the last twenty or thirty years to go for the dark ages/medieval with added mud, with very little focus on the romantic ideals.

(the other problem is that she's posting these massive fucking analyses episode by episode, when everyone else has already watched the rest and so of course half the analysis has been scuppered by later events, like Gaius' motivations or Uther's reactions)

Right. That's that rant over with.

Doctor's tomorrow. Mum drove me there to get registered to see about my we-think-they're-migraines plus the sleep problems. Oh, this is going to be fun. Especially since I'm re-registering with the GP who's known me since I was tiny. oh well, at least he knows that I only turn up for specific shit and that I'm one of those people who feel like I'm time-wasting when i turn up.

[identity profile] sgrio.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
TAROT? Romantic? Well, yes, they do use elements of the Romantic stuff but it looks like TH White cunningly disguised as Xena to me. And they do use older stuff, which makes me squee my head off, and it's just generally shiny. Sigh.

I'm gonna go read it, aren't I? And then I'll rant. *resigned*

[identity profile] burntcopper.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
she's got a few decent insights, it's just she's coming at so much of it from the wrong angle. Combine with general tone, = kneejerk.
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[identity profile] transtempts.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, dear.

[identity profile] kiss-me-quick.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You might want to friends-lock this!

[identity profile] xenaclone.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, fire me up and point me at her [GGG].
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[personal profile] birdsflying 2009-02-04 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
um..flocked, perhaps?
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[identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, on the good side, looks like she got attacked by the power of MOD.

I hope they deleted said posts, because nothing shits me more than people pontificating about the 'point' of Arthurian legend. Or 'true' canon. And so on.

[identity profile] burntcopper.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
ooo, I'd forgotten about that rule. We have it on [livejournal.com profile] merlinbbc too. :exercises mod powers:

[identity profile] blue-monday.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't watched Merlin, but she sounds like Jacob on TWoP with his irritating in depth analysis of Doctor Who.

[identity profile] burntcopper.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
one of my pet peeves, people over-analysing stuff. it's why i grew to hate the whole concept of english lit. even though I was good at it. discussing is fine. *analysing* something that in depth and trying to draw parallels with stuff that... oh god, *no*.

[identity profile] sgrio.livejournal.com 2009-02-05 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
*jumps in*

It's fine if you know you're doing it and just, IDK, having fun. I do it for fun all the time. But it is sort of like missing the forest for the trees, I am aware of that. IDK. I do it, but not in public.

*butts out*

[identity profile] blue-monday.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind people doing it for fun, or getting randomly onto the subject while having a drink and discussing show/movie/books, because that is fun. But to go off on tangents, pulling all sorts of wild literary references in etc... that does my head in a bit.

Did you ever read any of Jacob's Doctor Who recaps?