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[burntcopper]

Well, aside from 'argh, not another bloody story where Jack's confused about the Doctor's new appearance'. PEOPLE. He works for Torchwood. Who catalogue the Doctor's appearances obsessively. He has Ten's *hand*. There was this thing called the Battle of Canary Wharf, where the Doctor was *in* Torchwood One, and they all bloody well recognised him as Ten, so I think there's just a *slight* chance that Jack knows exactly what Ten looks like. Plus, he's been on the slow path since the early years of the 20th Century, so I think there's a very high chance that he knows exactly what all the regenerations of the Time Lord look like.

I can buy that Torchwood Three don't know that the Tardis took Jack - there's a high chance the cctv was blurred or something by the TARDIS's presence.

But please. Stoppit with the 'Jack doesn't know that the Doctor now looks like a certain Scots actor.'

Trying to figure out whether it's worth sticking a line in the latest fic about Jack having played the lead on Broadway in The Gay Divorce and shagging Cole Porter. Yes, Astaire was in the *opening* cast of all three openings of that show, (one in '32, one in early '33 when it moved theatres, and when it transferred to the Palace in London in Nov '33), but I think you may notice that Astaire did Flying Down to Rio in '33 as well as one other film.

...I still can't believe no-one's at least dropped one single fricking line about De-Lovely in a Torchwood fic. John Barrowman's character was *named* Jack, fer crissakes! Platter much until we get concrete canon about exactly what Jack was up to in 1933, people?

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Jack and 10

[mickeyk.livejournal.com]

Rant on! I'm in total agreement with you, for all the reasons you've stated, Yvonne seemed to recognize the Doctor, Torchwood Institute was founded, for crying out loud, because of the 10th Doctor, Jack has 10's hand in a jar, etc.

If we go with Hub website, Jack's been awake and working for Torchwood 3 since circa 1960, so he should have an idea of what the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Doctor look like (via U.N.I.T.)... didn't the 7th Doctor have a U.N.I.T. story, with both Brigadier Alastair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart and Brigadier Bambera? I can certainly see Jack keeping track of the various incarnations of the Doctor. I'd be way more surprised if Jack doesn't have any idea what the Doctor looks like now.

Re: Cole Porter, go read this and enjoy (if you haven't already):

http://xwingace.livejournal.com/58308.html

If you go with the Hub website being canon, then it's already an A.U., but what a great story.

Jack and 10 (cont'd)

[mickeyk.livejournal.com]

I meant to say in my other comment, that except for Ianto, I can see Owen, Gwen and Tosh having no recognition of a certain blue Police Call Box. After all, Jack hired them (as far as we know). Looks to me like Jack's playing up the alien tech and threats, not that the Doctor, personally, is a threat and Enemy #1. Ianto, since he was at Torchwood One, could know/recognize the significance... unless Jack RetConned him, so that Ianto would also buy into Jack's agenda for Torchwood Three, and completely forget about the Doctor. No matter how pissed off Jack might be at the Doctor (and that smile at the end of "End of Days" certainly didn't look to me like he is), I can't see Jack letting his operation be a threat to the one being in the universe who might be able to help him.

Is it time for Jack's DW episodes yet, or the return of TW for the next set of episodes? *whimper*