You are young and do not remember. I was there! John was in it!

For those of you with the boxsets, what's your fave commentaries? Haven't watched my Torchwood boxset yet, so haven't listened to those yet, but I've dl'd several of the Dr Who ones and have yet to find any that're as amusing to listen to as The Empty Child/Doctor Dances pair. Possibly due to the presence of the Moffat and the Barrowman geeking out and camping it up (and is horribly, horribly quotable). Though have found a fairly constant rule : If Julie Gardner is on it, it will be boring.

music vids I will never, ever do due to being lazy :

Anything Goes - either Jack Harkness in Dr Who and Torchwood or Torchwood team vid. Shots slot in very easily for each version.

You're So Vain (Barrowman version) - Dr and Jack. (Dr being the *subject* of the song and Jack being the ex)

Crucify (Tori Amos) - Faith and or Lilah vs. Wes.

(though the entirety of Little Earthquakes could be scripted to various Buffy females - I'm trying to remember which track I decided was perfect Darla)

Time after Time - could be any bloody fandom pairing of buddy/romantic/family type, but at this moment in time I'm thinking Sam and Dean Winchester works best. This will of course change in the next five minutes.

...the amount of people who've been saying quoting the cake or death Eddie Izzard bit in the past couple of days is disturbing. And we're not even talking 'Cake or Death?' They're starting it off with 'Well, we're all out of cake!' I've heard it three times today.

Torchwood : the spin-offs

someone on afterelton.com (very crap torchwood reviews, but the rest is funny) posited an idea that needs to be let free with many flying monkeys :

Torchwood needs spin-offs. Like Law and Order. CSI. Casualty and Holby. Only they would be *different time periods*. (though you could also do the different Torchwoods in the different time periods, too)

Torchwood: 1918 would be all about the awesomeness of Harriet and Gerald.

Torchwood: Empire/Golden Age - The Victorian years. With canon steampunk. (remember the telescope?)

Torchwood : WW2. with added post-war and rationing and The Blitz and alien stuff out in the country and spy stuff and land girls and evacuees and... I'm not drooling. Honest.

Torchwood: 1960s - this would just be... oh yeah. miniskirts and rock 'n' roll and psychedelia and Avengers-style and oooooo. And East End gangsters.

Torchwood : 1970s. Gene Hunt is informing me that any poncy aliens who show up on his turf will have to answer to him, and that he can swagger better than that bleedin' Harkness any day. Also to keep his hands off his DI.